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It's a CCG (collectible card game) a recent derivative from TCG (trading card games) that were born from Magic the gathering in the middle of the 90's.- You play the game and you earn a currency called gold, that you can use to buy 'packs'.- Each packs contains 8 cards of random rarity, the last one is garanteed rare or better.- You can buy a second currency with real money and buy packs this way (better to use it slowly on the daily half price one pack discount)- You can not directly buy cards. But you can disenchant the cards you have to create specific ones.- Now as to the FTP vs PTW:- It depends on your mind set. Can you reach any rank as FTP? Yes and quite easily in fact. It's not hard to build a top tier deck as long as you play regularly, are patient, and focus on ONE class.-However players that spend money will get the cards faster and will probably end up being able to play.more. classes.-As a card game Shadowverse is exceedingly generous for free to play players. I can legitimately say to anyone that they can reach any ranks they want provided they play this game regularly.

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This is absolutely not something I could say for Hearthstone for instance.I have spent about 100 USD on this game overall the past 9 months, bought mostly the premade packs which are an insane value and an awesome way to get into the game, and my collection is better then my 800$ hearthstone one to give you an idea. Originally posted by SpartanInaho00:I like to try this game out but I'm afraid it is one of those pay to win or pay to play mobile crap games. Is this game any good and do i have to buy 'currency' to get good cards? Now it is.They introduced a few GGEZ win-buttons.Aegis, Orruburos, and even a 'win the match' card for Heaven. That said, its still more fun than Hearthstone so YMMV.How is it pay to win? I can see you are frustrated with your numerous posts about Take 2. But You don't need to pay to get these cards.

I had 5000 gold saved up, did a couple of stuff after the expansion released which added another 1000 (mainly saved up take 2 tickets), opened 72-74 packs, 9 lengendaries (which is exactly average) got 1 Aegis 1 Ouroboros, had 18 000+ vials, crafter a Sibil, a Bahamut still 11 000 vials left. Could craft aegis and Ouroboros no problem, no money was involved in that. (Though I do pay from time to time to get the daily 50% but that didn't factor in the 72-74 packs and this expansion).Strong lengendaries =/= money. You can get them if you do your dailies no problem as long as you stick to a class or two. Originally posted by:It's a CCG (collectible card game) a recent derivative from TCG (trading card games) that were born from Magic the gathering in the middle of the 90's.- You play the game and you earn a currency called gold, that you can use to buy 'packs'.- Each packs contains 8 cards of random rarity, the last one is garanteed rare or better.- You can buy a second currency with real money and buy packs this way (better to use it slowly on the daily half price one pack discount)- You can not directly buy cards. But you can disenchant the cards you have to create specific ones.- Now as to the FTP vs PTW:- It depends on your mind set. Can you reach any rank as FTP?

Yes and quite easily in fact. It's not hard to build a top tier deck as long as you play regularly, are patient, and focus on ONE class.-However players that spend money will get the cards faster and will probably end up being able to play.more.

classes.-As a card game Shadowverse is exceedingly generous for free to play players. I can legitimately say to anyone that they can reach any ranks they want provided they play this game regularly. This is absolutely not something I could say for Hearthstone for instance.I have spent about 100 USD on this game overall the past 9 months, bought mostly the premade packs which are an insane value and an awesome way to get into the game, and my collection is better then my 800$ hearthstone one to give you an idea. Thanks for the great answer, I see i may give this game a try. Does anyone has a tips or guide to help a new player to get the most out of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or get started the 'right way'. Originally posted by:Now it is.They introduced a few GGEZ win-buttons.Aegis, Orruburos, and even a 'win the match' card for Heaven.

That said, its still more fun than Hearthstone so YMMV.How is it pay to win? I can see you are frustrated with your numerous posts about Take 2. But You don't need to pay to get these cards. I had 5000 gold saved up, did a couple of stuff after the expansion released, opened 72-74 packs, 9 lengendaries (which is exactly average) got 1 Aegis 1 Ouroboros, had 18 000+ vials, crafter a Sibil, a Bahamut still 11 000 vials left. Could craft aegis and Ouroboros no problem, no money was involved in that.Strong lengendaries =/= money. You can get them if you do your dailies no problem as long as you stick to a class or two.Right, so pay to not lose till you win, that is some logical parkour fam.Liquifying a bunch to get those sweet 3500 vials to get one of the op cards only makes it p2w-sooner or maybe p2w-on non-arena, etc.

I can afford the cards in vials, I'm just speaking for the brand new players who will encounter these decks in MM. Originally posted by:It's a CCG (collectible card game) a recent derivative from TCG (trading card games) that were born from Magic the gathering in the middle of the 90's.- You play the game and you earn a currency called gold, that you can use to buy 'packs'.- Each packs contains 8 cards of random rarity, the last one is garanteed rare or better.- You can buy a second currency with real money and buy packs this way (better to use it slowly on the daily half price one pack discount)- You can not directly buy cards. But you can disenchant the cards you have to create specific ones.- Now as to the FTP vs PTW:- It depends on your mind set. Can you reach any rank as FTP? Yes and quite easily in fact. It's not hard to build a top tier deck as long as you play regularly, are patient, and focus on ONE class.-However players that spend money will get the cards faster and will probably end up being able to play.more.

classes.-As a card game Shadowverse is exceedingly generous for free to play players. I can legitimately say to anyone that they can reach any ranks they want provided they play this game regularly. This is absolutely not something I could say for Hearthstone for instance.I have spent about 100 USD on this game overall the past 9 months, bought mostly the premade packs which are an insane value and an awesome way to get into the game, and my collection is better then my 800$ hearthstone one to give you an idea.

Thanks for the great answer, I see i may give this game a try. Does anyone has a tips or guide to help a new player to get the most out of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or get started the 'right way'. Originally posted by:How is it pay to win? I can see you are frustrated with your numerous posts about Take 2. But You don't need to pay to get these cards.

Space funeral dracula. I had 5000 gold saved up, did a couple of stuff after the expansion released, opened 72-74 packs, 9 lengendaries (which is exactly average) got 1 Aegis 1 Ouroboros, had 18 000+ vials, crafter a Sibil, a Bahamut still 11 000 vials left. Could craft aegis and Ouroboros no problem, no money was involved in that.Strong lengendaries =/= money. You can get them if you do your dailies no problem as long as you stick to a class or two.Right, so pay to not lose till you win, that is some logical parkour fam.Liquifying a bunch to get those sweet 3500 vials to get one of the op cards only makes it p2w-sooner or maybe p2w-on non-arena, etc. I can afford the cards in vials, I'm just speaking for the brand new players who will encounter these decks in MM.No. You're missing it completely.

I always liquify extra only. I got all those vials from the stuff I already had in the previous expansion. I think you're really under estimating the ammount of stuff you get if you do your dailies every day. The packs I got from ToG alone got me 7 000 vials or so. Just liquifying extra.A new player will start in low tiers where it's just a peace of cake to win. I'm B3 and still 70+% win rate playing decks that I didn't spend money on (which is hillarious because I did spend money on the game.

But to play other class through the prebuilt sets XD).I'm just not buying your 'you're staring a new account you start rank games and every single person is running Ouroboros x3 Sibil x3 Satan x2) or something like this. I'm not even encountering it at B3 soon A1.I should mention that I got Lucifer and Prince of Darkness for free. It did help a lot, it was a promotion when the game came out, I don't think it's still available. Originally posted by: A new player will start in low tiers where it's just a peace of cake to win.

I'm B3 and still 70+% win rate playing decks that I didn't spend money on (which is hillarious because I did spend money on the game. But to play other class through the prebuilt sets XD).I'm just not buying your 'you're staring a new account you start rank games and every single person is running Ouroboros x3 Sibil x3 Satan x2) or something like this. I'm not even encountering it at B3 soon A1.I should mention that I got Lucifer and Prince of Darkness for free. It did help a lot, it was a promotion when the game came out, I don't think it's still available. You do realise that even with a 40% win rate you reach A rank, right? A rank is where everyone ends up, even those who don't play rank, they end up there just by doing dailies.Once you reach A-AA you'll see the gap. The gap was really small before, now it's quite big.

Originally posted by: A new player will start in low tiers where it's just a peace of cake to win. I'm B3 and still 70+% win rate playing decks that I didn't spend money on (which is hillarious because I did spend money on the game. But to play other class through the prebuilt sets XD).I'm just not buying your 'you're staring a new account you start rank games and every single person is running Ouroboros x3 Sibil x3 Satan x2) or something like this. I'm not even encountering it at B3 soon A1.I should mention that I got Lucifer and Prince of Darkness for free.

It did help a lot, it was a promotion when the game came out, I don't think it's still available. You do realise that even with a 40% win rate you reach A rank, right? A rank is where everyone ends up, even those who don't play rank, they end up there just by doing dailies.Once you reach A-AA you'll see the gap. The gap was really small before, now it's quite big.On the contrary.

Yes almost everyone reach A (Why AA? A is when win streaks ends, you can't reach AA if you're not good enough/don't have a good enough deck).

But it takes ages, I'am at 70% win rate now but if you take all my game it's closer to 85% win rate. And I'm still not even A.

That is. a lot.

of daily quests. a lot. of gold.

More then enough to make one top tier deck for one class.I'm already playing against A players and it's like. Totally fine no problem. Because I pretty much almost already have all the cards anyways for my specific deck.

( playing Dragon lacking a third Sibil a second Bahamut and a second Ourobos, have Zeus as a replacement for Bahamut for now). I don't get it, hearing you it's as if you're coming into A after a couple of hundreds of game god knows how many take 2 and somehow you have 1 legendary in your deck? XDIt's such an incredible long grind even with huge win rate to get to A. You're gonna be rich in gold by the time you hit it. Especially if you do all the daily quests.Right now I'm planning to spend my gold for 1 more month. I'll save the next two months for the next expansion.

That way I'll do the same again, day one 70+ packs can get into the next expansion immidiately.